But this is not in the spirit of giving advice. I'm not saying that you do it –
No, I take this moment. I do not see myself in these conversations as a consultant.
Because, you know, there is a tradition of this – Walter Lippmann, which gives the advice of this or that.
And make secret diplomatic missions. The lines were blurred then.
So you keep it beautiful up and up.
I'm trying.
Would you ever get into politics?
No.
Absolutely not? You are making Sherman's statement.
I am making Sherman's statement. I think you should know what you have. I think I'm doing it well.
What is your sense of your mission as a podkaster, as a writer?
My sense of the mission is simple: I have values and beliefs about how the world should work and what the world will do better, and I try to convince their people, but I also try to explore them honestly. I do this because I care about where things are going. I am not impartially observed from the outside. I am emotionally, intellectually, spiritually involved.
But what I am doing, and how I do this has changed a lot over the years. Thus, I can follow more through intuition than through some frames. The version of me, which wrote Wonkblog, and told everyone about health care and aging in the same diagram – this is not what I am doing now on my podcast. My podcast is a forum in which I am not trying to be convincing. Over time, I think that these are convincing elements, but mainly other people say it. I have many people on the show with whom I do not agree. And I think that this acts as a space in which certain types of conversations can be held, and then can be introduced into conversation with each other. And it matters.
In my column, I am more prescribed. What comes into the fact that in the end, the book “Abundance” is more from the column, and I am trying to understand the world and try to find ways to confront things that I find puzzling or nervous. I try to relate to serious issues that I do not like. I am not trying to insist that the world works the way I want it to work. I try to be honest with myself about how it works.
You are an important figure that, I think, still, today the most important organization to collect news on Earth, New York OnceBut this is also the one that everyone has opinions. And recently, Thomas Chatteron Williams wrote a book about the 2020 summer, which was dramatic in many quarters, including OnceThe field James Bennett quit. Bari Weiss left and created Free pressThe field what do you think about the growing influence of Bari Weiss? It seems that she is going to become a very important figure in CBS News.
Yes, it seems that she is going to capture CBS.
What do you think?
My thing is about Bari – and I was on her show – I very much admire how good she is what she does. My disagreements with Bari are that I think that she is asymmetric in sympathy and generosity.
Tell me what it means.
I thought Free press' Working, say, starvation in Gaza was very bad.
Write down it.
This did all this, for example, many children who died and were reported, well, they had secondary conditions. And, yes, when you starve the population, people who die first will be the most vulnerable. But this is not justifiably. There were overwhelming evidence of how bad they were in gas. I felt that they tried to win.
I think Bari, however, is the crazy coverage of talents. If you look at what she built Free pressShe is very, very good in searching for people, drawing them, on the network with them. She is a kind of impresario. Attracting Tyler Cowen into the observer was a very good idea for them.
Economist.
I am the one who edited the site, Voksright? I know how hard it is to do. And Bari has an incredibly sensitive feeling for a political moment. This is not my feeling at the moment, and her policy is not mine.
What is her policy? How would you describe them?
The fact that I see what she is trying to do is what used to be somewhat more common, that is, selflessly, that she will define as a center. And I see Free press Pulling around this and forward. I would say that it was much more when he ran, and the democrats were in power. But now, when he, like, oh, no, they are vandals. The publication for me is a little a little, as old New RepublicDoing what they did before. The field with the field is actually, it is ridiculous. When I was a blogger, it was what we were all used to complaining all the time. All these organizations that we felt used this concept, this amorphous concept of the center as a positioning device –
That it was evasion.
No, it was not evasion – it was NavigationThey did not evade the field. They were just like. There were many politicians and many players who felt that their politics adhered to some kind of idea of the center, unlike a very consistent set of views and principles. And, since the media became polarized, much fewer places do this. I think Bari saw a market opportunity in this. Her center, I think, is the center? No. But I will learn a lot of editorial skills there.
